by Jo Nova
Australia is too poor to use air-conditioning and dishwashers on a warm day
Welcome to Bananaustralia.
The Premier of NSW issued death threats about electricity bills to get attention:
“If you use electricity this afternoon, you’re going to get killed in terms of how much you pay, the amount of money (to run appliances) this afternoon will be through the roof,” he said.
The NSW Minister, Penny Sharpe told eight million people to avoid using the dishwashers and pool pumps between 3 and 8pm, close the doors and blinds, and turn the air conditioner up to a higher temperature. “Stay hydrated and avoid going outside in the hotter parts of the day where possible” she said, like she was talking to four year olds.
All around New South Wales and in Canberra people spent the day wandering around turning off lights and appliances, and rearranging their plans. Public servants were asked to pull the blinds and turn off appliances at work. The four water utilities, the dams, and water management, were also asked to help. And the Reliability and Emergency Reserve Trader (RERT) condition was instigated, which means some businesses were paid to stop using as much electricity. Presumably, Tomago smelter had to go on an electron-diet — since it uses 10% of the entire state’s electricity. But who needs aluminium right?
So most of the state tried to do something useful in the dim light, so they could pay the rest of the state to do nothing.
But it’s OK, because you could do whatever you wanted up until 3pm:
Energy should be used as normal prior to 3pm when rooftop solar panels are powering much of the state. During the peak from 3pm to 8pm, every small step to reduce demand makes a difference.
You can take your productivity and stir-fry it.
The human brain is the most complex known thing in the universe, and this week millions of those biological powerhouses were distracted from whatever they do best by the complexity of living in a world of Green witchcraft trying to make the weather perfect next century. The productivity loss might have been modest this time, but the long term trend is a slow motion trainwreck. The more weather dependent generators we have, the more time we waste thinking about electricity. Should we cook dinner for 10pm? The kids will be hungry.
Killer electricity prices came anyway — $17,500 a MWh for a whole hour
All the effort stopped the blackouts, but they didn’t stop the bank raid. Wholesale electricity prices hit the price cap Tuesday and Wednesday.
Despite all the solar power Australians are swimming in, the bonfire started at 2.30pm and lasted a full sizzling hour. Even though many prices in the wholesale market are hedged, that square wave on an 11 gigawatt grid is a $200 million dollar price signal. The people writing those futures contracts for next year got the message they will have to raise their forward contracts. The price spikes we see today turn up in our electricity bills sometime down the track.
Say what? You were surprised by 38 degrees in Sydney in November?
Summer came early, say all the people looking for something to blame. On Wednesday the temperature reached 38°C at Sydney airport. Barely five years ago in 2019 there were nine days that November above 30°C. Thirty percent of the whole month was above 30.
It hit 40°C at Sydney airport on November in 2006. There were six days that month over 30C. Somehow, with barely any renewables and no batteries at all, the lights stayed on thanks to coal power. Paul McArdle noted at the time that during the 40°C heat, the whole national grid used 29GW of electricity but there was 6GW of surplus power in reserve and ready to go. When electricity was cheap, and no had to hide behind the blinds or cook dinner after 9pm, the coal fired grid had a 21% reserve plant margin.
If renewables fail we should do more renewables:
Experts divided on state’s energy woes following blackout fears
By Alex Dimitriadi and Robert White, The Australian
Mr Bowen blamed volatility in the electricity grid on coal-fired power stations, saying on Thursday that they were its “biggest threat”, spruiking a second-term Labor government’s plan to prioritise renewables and underpinned by gas.
“The least reliable part of our energy grid is coal-fired power,” he said. “There hasn’t been a day in the last 18 months when we haven’t had a breakdown in a coal-fired power station.
Someone needs to tell our Minister of Energy that there hasn’t been a day in the last 18 months when solar didn’t fail.
There was not a single day we could make the wind blow at 6pm on command like we do every day for gas.
There was not a single day when retail electricity prices were cheap.
“What the Australian Energy Market Operator told me was that batteries were essential for getting NSW through yesterday.”
What the AEMO should have shown you was this graph done by one man (why can’t the AEMO draw graphs as useful as Andrew Miskelly?).
Where are the batteries? Not visible. What kept the lights on: black coal, brown coal, and when solar failed as the clouds came over, natural gas arrived to save the day.
Seems people at the AEMO were sweating bullets this week, because they are rushing to sign new reserve contracts.
Energy operator expected to seal long-term reserves in bid to prevent more blackout warnings
The Australian Energy Market Operator is expected to imminently agree to new reserve contracts that once agreed will allow the agency extra capacity ahead of a critical summer period.
The contracts, which could be signed within days, come as authorities brace for a summer when demand for electricity will spike, and the industry remains anxious after a precarious day in NSW on Wednesday when the grid struggled to meet demand.
— Colin Packham, The Australian
Why didn’t they see this coming?
Everything you need to know about politics and economics:
– Prosperity and individual independence bad.
– Dependent impoverishment good.
The rest is obscurantism.
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It’s not even summer yet. Talk about how to overcomplicate a once simple, extremely reliable system. Can’t wait for Victoria’s turn at the great electricity roulette wheel because the whole electric grid appears to be now a gamble.
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Every time I’ve looked at the AEMO dashboard it has been obvious that NSW rarely generates as much power as it consumes , relying on the extension cords into QLD and Victoriastan for the shortfall . Liddell might be handy about now .
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That was highlighted at the time Liddell closed but the never listened
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If you want reliable;e, controlled cost electricity then make your own.
Blackout Bowen’s energy strategy is rapidly creating a South African style electricity grid to Australia.
https://theconversation.com/south-africas-power-crisis-going-off-the-grid-works-for-the-wealthy-but-could-deepen-injustice-for-the-poor-200288
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One has to wonder just how far down – temp up – the air conditioners in the NSW & Australian parliaments were adjusted.
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Surely all that hand-waving by Lydia the Ejected would’ve cooled things down? Except her efforts would be nett zero once she started yelling and foot-stomping, raising the level of carbon pollution to never-before-seen toxic levels.
Doesn’t your parliament have a day care centre for unruly ill-tempered children?
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I remember the article here about why Liddell Power Station was worth more to AGL Limited if they shut it down and today I read in The Australian newspaper
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Vales Point. The electricity generator is located on the NSW Central Coast, with installed capacity of around 1,320 megawatts.Part of Vales Point’s coal supply is co-fired with biomass to replace a proportion of coal with a renewable fuel.
If Vales Point goes then we would really be in the poo.
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Lets do STRESS testing on the grid.Open the switches on the QLD–NSW interconnector and see how NSW and others get by on RENEWABLES.
QLD HAS ANNOUNCED $1 BILLION to keep our gas and coal fired stations in good operating condition.
Maybe we will see QLD telling australian business ” come to QLD we have the cheapest electricity in Australia.
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I would like to see how long Sarf’ Australia would go without the electrical cord from Sictoria being in place.
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Dutton Plan
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If ablutions don’t appear to work, more blood lettings are called for. Welcome to the Dark Ages.
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Coal has been an absolute disaster. 12 coal fired power stations have failed completely in the last decade or so and have failed to re-start. There was a major design fault common to all of them – they had no protection from explosives. When our governments blew them up, they failed. Yes, coal really has let us down.
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Great comment, just the right ammount of sarcasm
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King Coal helped to kick off the Industrial Revolution and we are all the better for it.
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There’s only one good thing coming from this: the general public is finally seeing all the lies exposed.
It is becoming crystal clear that Bowen’s mantras are based on his faith in Joseph Goebbels’ principle:
The BIG LIE by Joseph Goebbels
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
http://proctors.com.au/mrhomepage.nsf/0d6f50f1d7b71ca7482582240033242e/4d1359098409497748258337002d599d!OpenDocument
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I think it will take some time, People are dopey and apathetic and will believe the nonsense of dirty unreliable coal. Everyone thinks they will save the planet with solar and wind. I hear this all the time.
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I find it hard to contemplate how far this country has fallen since the late 70’s.
Unfortunately Dutton refuses to take that last step on many issues such as energy and climate. If you truly believe in your policies you don’t need to “read the script” as he does in Parliament.
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I believe Australia improve up to the end of last century.
The economic situation is really reflected in the cost of electricity.
https://www.energymatters.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/electricity-price-rises.png
It was Hawk/Keating era changes that improved industrial productivity and then the premiers, notably Kennett, privatised the state run electricity monopolies. It was all going well until Howard introduced the RET (renewable energy theft) scheme.
Since the early 00s, productivity in Australia has been sliding but the impact has been dulled by China’s dramatic improvement in productivity. Australia has fared better than most through supplying basic commodities in large volume to China in return for their manufactured goods.
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Having been through this already in Victoria (January 2019), this is the Labor governments playbook. Whatsherface Sharpe has probably already rung the Victorian Energy nincompoop (Lily d Ambrosio) for some guidelines. Lily would have advised her to totally demonise coal. Portray coal as being evil, totally unreliable and old fashioned. Ridicule it until the cows come home. The media and the people dont know otherwise. They’ve never heard of High Efficiency Coal or the fact the most Asian nations are using the latest tech in their coal burners. Plus, of course , coal is the great demon climate change baddie. There’s that. The NSW government will trot out all the usual talking points based on BS and give the perception they’re the truth tellers, it will be like COVID all over again.
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Go long on candles, firewood and non-perishable foodstuffs. (See also: water purification / storage. and “long-life pharmaceuticals / medical supplies.))
How to best keep such thing out of the hands of officials (and “freelancers” hunting down “hoarders is up to your conscience.
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Happy Friday to you all………………….The Real Cost of Net Zero………….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
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Presumably these electricity shortages have happened after the few remaining industrial users have been load shed and paid a lot of taxpayer money to turn off their loads (e.g. aluminium smelters).
I think it’s good news. It might cause the Sheeple to wake up.
Unfortunately the alternative NSW State and Federal government, the fake conservative Liberal Party are still true believers in the anthropogenic global warming fraud and are also responsible for most of the “renewables” madness we now have.
Australia would suffer regular blackouts if it were not for the fact that large industrial users are forced to turn off at great expense to the taxpayer when the wind and sun stop shining.
We get regular load shedding, just like here in Nepal, but it is invisible to most users, therefore people don’t think Australia has many characteristics of a Third World country.
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How are you writing so much on 300bps? Or is Nepal using Elon Musk’s satellites?
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I have been writing when I stop walking and have morning and afternoon tea breaks, lunch or stay overnight at a guest house. About half the guest houses have Intermittent workable WiFi that often works slowly but is OK for text. For those that have internet-connected WiFi, the connection stops operating at about 9pm when the owners either turn it off to save electricity or the solar power goes flat or there is load shedding (if grid electricity is available) or the solar-powered cell phone towers go flat.
I am now back in Kathmandu and staying in a good hotel in Thamel, Kathmandu. It appears to have 24/7 electricity and hot water which is highly unusual. It either has its own generator or batteries or the Government makes sure the tourists have electricity 24/7 in tourist hotspots like the Thamel area.
Elon is trying to establish Starlink and it’s subject to talks. Things happen slowly, if at all, here. It has been unavailable because the Government requires any foreign venture to have 20% local equity.
On the trail, electricity and internet are so unreliable that you have to use them when and if they become available so you make sure to charge your devices and use the internet the moment they work (if they do).
There is no low cost roaming arrangement between any Australian carrier and any Nepali carrier so no $5 or $10 per day roaming for calls and data. I didn’t buy a local SIM card but I might next time.
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I give you a turkey who should be roasted immediately before Christmas. Bonehead Blackout Bowen.
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I find it hilarious that overnight there are so many buildings with the lights on in the Sydney CBD and there is no one in them.
The NSW State Parliament Building has the lights on as well. And it still has a tin roof with no insulation from the daytime heat. Do they turn down the Air Conditioning when all those ‘Pollies’ are all letting out hot air and the heat comes down through the roof?
NO. And I will not until they build HELE Coal Fired Power Stations and to once more provide affordable, reliable electricity.
All that Bonehead Blackout Bowen is doing is giving us ELECTRICKERY…………………
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JR. Sub critical coal fired power plants is what we need as there is no climate problem and therefore no need to reduce CO2 emissions!
John
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We are in a new world where the extreme left politicians simply deny reality. They openly lie. With a smile and sincerely, even passionately.
According to the US democrats, the border is fine. Harris/Biden/Walz all say so.
According to Starmer, the riots against uncontrolled mass migration was hate speech. And needs disinformation/misinformation laws and police prosecution to stop dangerou free speech.
And in Australia, there is no problem at all. Labor is fixing everything. The Voice is going ahead as fast as possible, despite overwhelming rejection by the entire country.
“Anthony Albanese spruiked Labor’s success in ‘delivering our agenda’ and said his government was on track to make a difference on
a) cost of living,
b) housing,
and
c) productivity.”
from what I can see, that is the exact reverse of the truth.
And it’s entirely their fault and explicit intention, to wreck the joint. On orders of China who believe and ‘free and fair’ trade, as long as we stop making things and do not defend ourselves and ask no questions about the Wuhan Flu. You just have to love the happy faces on Xi, Albanese and Starmer. Happy. Happy. Communists.
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Guv’ment Misinformation and Disinformation is alive and well.
Now, are you better off now than you were in May 2022? Upgrade Albo and all the other Marxists are. But you, the humble voter. Are You?
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And the CO2 tax has just begun to bite and manufacturing companies are closing, like Australia’s largest plastics manufacturer with 800 jobs last year. And that is just the first 5% of the 35%. All borderline companies will close. Or pass on the costs.
Can you imagine a 35% tax on fuel for aviation? All airlines.
Or 35% on all transport? Trucks for food, buses, the Trans Tasman Ferry is an explicit victim being among the ‘biggest polluters’.
Even sewage and burial are subject to this appalling money grab. So eat less and don’t die. You can’t afford it.
And the papers say nothing. Plus likely the money goes to China and their friends. To grow trees? Australian Carbon Certificates.
The rape of Australia by President Xi’s Labor is in full swing.
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Of course everyone knows about the insidious 2011 Australian Carbon Credits scheme
COP and the Bankers are budgeting world wide for hundreds of billions of dollars. To save the planet of course.
You must know all about this. It’s all law in Australia.
Meanwhile all governments since Howard in 2001 are saying “there will be no Carbon Tax in a government I lead”. Except this isn’t a tax, which governments can raise and for which they are accountable, it’s legislated and illegal mandated and enforce Government theft! For which government is NOT accountable.
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Labor is making a difference.
Cost of living is up.
Housing is unavailable.
Productivity is down.
Expecting improvements in these areas is unfair to our sleazebag politicians.
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They did see it coming. But they spent all the time between seeing it and it happening, drawing up a list of people to blame.
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It’s intentional. And as with former Federal Treasurer Wayne Swann and his own scandal, he is ‘truly sorry’. They’re all very sorry as they count your millions flowing into their bank accounts.
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Of course they saw it coming, they implemented it per WEF instructions.
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Will the last one leaving the building please switch off the lights.
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No need to. The lights are already out!
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Over this! This is ENRON all over again. Create scarcity and ream the market. Quickest way to reliability is to force all renewables to bid 30 minutes into the future and guarantee that supply. I can guarantee the ENTIRE renewable network will meltdown and then shut down for good until THEY pay for their own “firming”. Works in the NT so why not through the east coast grid. Its not too late to go back to a stable hydrocarbon fueled baseload. Plan now for replacement by Nuclear Power.
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Australia has been a Third World country masquerading as First world for some time now. Just look at the state of our roads, medical and education systems along with the electricity grid.
Third World services, First World taxes.
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At 1pm Wednesday the 28th, NSW demand was 11549 mw, but undispatchable unreliables only provided 5547 mw, in spite of all the urging and cajoling.
Third world, here we come.
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It is really easy to blame coal for blackouts. Being a true baseload power source it is not quick to power up the generators – so there is that intervening period when they are either ticking over or cold. Then if you own and operate coal fired power stations you would be mad to spend money on maintenance as you are going to be forcibly switched off or blown up (AKA Hazelwood). So they break down due to lack of maintenance – there you are – I told you coal was unable to be reliable – then of course they are the source of the “trains of death” spewing deadly “carbon” everywhere as you transport it to the coast for export to where China will continue to burn it without hindrance until 2060! Meanwhile all our industry dies and eventually China will invade and there is nothing we will be able to do to stop it as we have no subs, no tanks, no drones, and no army to speak of. And who would be the modern day Quislings that would welcome them in? try Albo, Dan, Bowen etc
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That, umm, ‘information’ that coal fired power cannot just ramp up and down in short time frames is pretty much untrue.
True, it may take time to ramp up to maximum after being completely turned off, say, after a period of maintenance, but coal fired power, either individual Units, Plants, or all coal fired power in its totality ramps up and down twice on a daily basis, and here I’m not saying small amounts, but by anything up to thousands of MegaWatts at a time.
Take a look at the image at this link. Now here, for the whole year of 2021, I collected data for every source of power, as well as all the totals for the daily minimum, the Peak Load, and also a number of other things all related to power generation as well.
Now having done that, what I then had to do was to find ….. just ONE DAY during that whole year, where every one of those indicators I collected was closest to the actual figures on that day, and that day was the indicated day across the top of this image, 7th September2021.
So the image was taken from Andrew Miskelly’s Aneroid site, and I wrote a huge long Post with images showing what Australian Average power looked like, especially at that minimum (4AM) and Peak Power (6PM) times of day.
Okay, part of that data collection and then showing the images included coal fired power and that is the image I linked to above, and below is the text I used for that day to explainthe ramping up and down of coal fired power.
There are only 16 coal fired power plants here in Australia, spread across the three largest States, and at those 16 Plants, there are (currently) 46 separate Units, and they have a total Nameplate of 23,000MW, and on this day, of those 46 Units in total, 8 of them were off line, and that reduced the available total power that could be generated from coal fired power down to 19500MW. As I mentioned coal fired power is and has always been far and away the largest contributor to the grid, and as you can see from the time indicator those operational Units were delivering 17,000MW, and at that Peak time, that was 63% of all the generated power from every source, and they were delivering that power at an (operational) Capacity Factor of 87.2%. However, the specific reason I have shown this image of coal fired power is this. See how coal fired power also exactly follows the Load, in other words, it ramps up and down accordingly across the day. How many times have you heard that coal fired power is pretty much useless because it cannot ramp up and down. Well, this proves that myth totally wrong. You can see that it slowly ramps down to the low point for the day at 4AM, then ramps up for the morning Peak, then back down for the mid afternoon low, and then back up again to is highest for the day at that evening Peak, and then back down again. You can see that the low point is around 10.30AM, and the high point is at 6.35PM. In that time, coal fired power has ramped up by almost 7,000MW. Coal fired power does not need to ramp up any faster than this, and this proves once and for all that coal fired power is quite capable of ramping on the needs basis that is required.
Coal fired power can and does ramp up and down every single day.
Tony.
PostScript – I only wrote that long Post to show just two images, but to do that I had to very carefully explain how I did just that. Those two images were for the Base Load time of day at 4AM, and for the Peak Power consumption time at 6.35PM. And at those two most important times of day, note specifically how tiny the amount is being delivered by those four renewables. What’s the point of having huge solar power in the middle of the day when real power is required at that Peak Power time at 6.35PM, and that has been the same time forever, and will remain the same for every day forever as well.
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So, the true and proper measure is to have ALL generators of ANY stripe, BID into the 6.35 PM load.
“If you can’t meet the Peak, then you’re not worth having”.
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Just a point on power ramping, it takes time to ramp up when renewables shut down without warning and that is if they are already online and running.
Gas is fast but coal takes more time and what do consumers do during the time delay?
The solution is as Germany has to do is run the coal fired power 24/7.
Yes, at low level but they are still burning coal (which is not used to produce power) so they can switch over as fast as possible.
Note:
Operating a coal fired power station on standby costs money and produces carbon and this dirty power which is NOT used is not counted when calculating the true cost of renewables.
Another point is Ireland which has potentially 100% capability using wind power generation, but it is not always available when they need it and as a result has problem with Grid stability which is a very serious issue so needs continuity of power supply from other sources.
😱🔥💰
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I listened to Leith Van Onselen saying Australia should be the richest country in the world, if we charged for our resources like Quatar and Norway instead of almost giving them away, we have everything the world needs apart from crude oil.
The LNG deal is a shining example that our leaders don’t have a clue what they are doing.
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Hopefully Australia’s transition to third world status will be halted early 2025 by the fall of the Socialist Albanese government. Assuming the Coalition wins comfortably in the 2025 Federal election what are they going to do with the already installed and partly installed wind towers, parallel power grid, solar farms and battery farms? Nuclear will be able to use the original grid fed by existing coal and gas-fired generator sites which means that the Socialist Albanese government’s boondoggle renewables plant and existing infrastructure will be a useless money gobbling eyesore on sea and land. Some of this waste will be recyclable but much of it will gobble up yet more money in disposing of this intractable waste.
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Surely some legal action can be taken against those politicians and public serpents who promote the obvious lie that wind and solar are the cheapest possible form of electricity production?
It’s obviously untrue because the more wind and solar we get the more expensive electricity becomes. Australia used to have among the world’s cheapest electricity, now it’s among the most expensive.
No wonder they exempted themselves from the censorship/misinformation bill.
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The question could surely be argued.
They all know it’s a scam. So if I was the judge nobody is entitled to compensation.
However some might go to war over it.
Standing as proof of the scam is the fact that negotiations have been engaged for ensuring that coal fired stations once closed will never reopen.
Anybody who invested without knowing that did not undertake “due diligence”.
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I get angry when Bowen blames the unreliable coal plants. Reality is that there has been no incentive to invest in either new coal fired generators or even in maintaining what we have for the last 20 years. Remove the subsidies for wind and solar and coal would be able to be reliable.
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Coal is ALWAYS reliable generators, if normal maintenance is done and their capacity isn’t limited by preferential treatment of wind and solar.
Wind and Solar are NEVER reliable generators even IF all normal maintenance is done. Because they are not Dispatchable.
AU needs education on what Actually powers a grid (Dispatchable generators) and what encumbers the grid ( non dispatchable generators).
The turning point is when AU realizes that imagination is no substitute for reality.
Why would anyone pay more for something that is not reliable, instead of paying less for something that is reliable, based solely upon political fantasies?
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I would have thought there would be performance requirements in the electricity supply contracts for operators. Especially the coal plants given they are base load and dependable. Which should be an incentive to maintain them. The operators would know that although the govt has set net zero targets, the targets are unrealistic and the coal plants will be needed for some time. But maybe our governments are no good at doing contracts or overseeing a supply grid. This hasn’t just snuck up on govt and regulators in the last 5 mins.
Aiden Morrison (Centre of Independent Studies) was a guest on Credlin last night and said “it’s a bit of myth” that the coal plants are “clunkers” and unreliable.
That particular comment starts at 3:15 into the video. The whole segment is 6 mins.
https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/peta-credlin/expert-warns-australias-worsening-energy-crisis-leading-to-living-standards-falling/video/ea79a053d4e661906bcb42b3efea003d
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I can see no obvious low-harm exit strategy from Australia’s wind and solar madness.
Few other countries are so fanatically committed to it.
If we exit:
1) huge compensation will be payable to the subsidy harvesters.
2) the government told retirement (superannuation) funds that wind and solar was “the future” and encouraged them to invest in them. Obviously the funds didn’t do due diligence to discover that the only purpose of wind and solar is to harvest subsidies and they had no long-term viability. If we exit retirees will suffer.
3) If we don’t exit the economy will become totally destroyed. Australia will still do nothing even as the United States under TRUMP starts to become prosperous again under TRUMP’s pro-energy policies
4) No politician or senior public serpents will admit to their lies and errors, like with covid they will say “we will following best available advice”. But that itself is a lie. All the information about the uselessness of wind and solar have been available for decades and on this blog.
The Government, the senior public serpents and the selfish subsidy harvesters have destroyed the country. We have no TRUMP. The damage done to Australia is so severe that there is no way out and Australia will be relegated to Second World status, kept afloat only by sales of minerals (including coal, gas and uranium which we are not allowed to use ourselves).
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Suggest that “All Government Salaries, Pensions, and Benefits, are inversely bound to the cost of consumer electricity, on the range of 1 to Zero , divided by (1 + Inflation rate pct)”.
That ought to do it.
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Excellent idea Lance.
Next time a politician or senior public serpent says how “cheap” wind and solar is, tell them that.
They will have to either go along with the lie and lose money, or tell the truth and abandon W&S.
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David, see #28.1
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I am starting to think state and federal politicians are on the take from the renewable grifters and carpetbaggers.
That, or they have a stake in renewables themselves.
These could be the only reasons, surely, that governments are making themselves deeply unpopular with their energy policies.
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The lies and BS are even more extreme than you think.
Even McKinsey tells us wealthy OECD countries must waste 9.2 trillion $ every year, but of course have zero change because the developing NON OECD countries will continue to increase co2 emissions for decades.
That means that Aussies must waste about 98 billion $ every YEAR until 2050 and again for SFA change.
Here’s the link to the Mc Kinsey report and the global cost of about 275.0 trillion $ by 2050 and definitely NOT NET ZERO.
Why don’t people understand these very simple sums?
https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/sustainable-inclusive-growth/charts/the-cost-will-not-be-net-zero
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Because the Left deliberately dumbed-down the education system.
Very few people under about 50 or so would possess the requisite critical thinking skills to understand even basic concepts nor would they have much general knowledge.
Children today can’t do basic arithmetic but they will tell you that the planet is dying and also how there are 72 (or whatever) “genders”.
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Imagine you wanted to change Australia to a third world country, like Venezuela or Argentina. Like Russia, you would not harm the people/slaves but you would blow up their power stations. Even better if you can get them to do it themselves. And make sure they could never be used again, which is standard practice in Australia.
Manufacturing is a problem, as they might produce guns or shells or nuclear submarines or cars. But the key to all manufacturing is cheap energy. Manufacturing is metal + energy = goods. Make energy unaffordable. No metals, no plastics, no refining. And the car industry has been demolished by Labor and the Unions. Great start.
Maybe the slave population can assemble, not make, Chinese solar panels, as Albanese is proposing for the Hunter valley with all those coal and power generating people out of work, like the Yallourn valley. Or erecting Chinese made power lines which fall over in a storm.
This week Australia’s largest windmill manufacturer closed. No government support. Energy too expensive. Not competitive against Chinese imports. Which of these is a surprise? And yet Albanese is talking of improving ‘productivity’ which allowing our biggest and best manufacturing to close. Keppel Prince and Quenos.
And the way you make electricity unaffordable is force people to go replaceables. In Victoria, make even fixing gas appliances illegal. Then bury huge ripoffs for nothing at all in the cost of coal and gas, carbon credits which have to surrendered for $0 to owners of Chinese solar panels and Chinese Windmills.
Make electricity unaffordable and you will bring a country to its knees. And keep the coal/gas/shale in the ground. China may run out.
It’s all too obvious.
I have trouble finding a difference between what Daniel Andrews did and Anthony Albanese is doing to Australia and what someone tasked with destroying Australia would do. I would like to think it was just sheer incompetence, like most Labor parties, but I fear it is directed by China.
Tourism is another. Victoria just banned climbing at Mt Arapiles. It is a beacon world wide for rock climbing and drives an industry. Who cares? Tell them they are on sacred sites but do not reveal where. Ban the lot. Ban everything. Tourists are not welcome. Like Ayers rock. Tourists are nothing but trouble and bring cash into the community. That has to be stopped. Only poor migrants are welcome, not rich tourists. In Victoria the cost of per person was tripled last year. The piers were packed with people spending hundreds of millions a year in Melbourne, so the Victoria Government chased them away. The piers are now empty.
Some one might tell me why you would triple the cost of berthing only to find no one arrives? Where’s the point in that except destruction of the tourist industry. Why?
If Dutton wanted to revitalize Australia, MAGA, then he only needs to repeal all the Carbon laws which are illegal anyway. And shut down the Clean Energy/Finance/Ripoff corporation in Canberra which ‘administers’ all these ultra Green theft based laws. To which no Australians agreed and of which most Australians are totally unaware.
And instead of giving an incredible $1Bn for shares in an ultra high risk, no return Quantum Computing venture in the US, give the same money to real existing manufacturing businesses in Australia which means we do not have to import manufactured goods, like plastics and windmills and solar panels.
Tell the Kappel Prince people to stay open. The government will subsidize Australian manufacturing, just like China.
Then we have the hard road of rebuilding our power stations and our manufacturing. Make Australia Great Again.
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Time to drain the swamp in Australia! This scam has gone on long enough to provide mountains of comparison data from before and after the Great Con. We are drowning in sanctimonious activists in the Marxist Government enabled by sycophant bureaucrats who ‘will provide that information to the Senate enquiry’ even though they were furnished with questions a week ago.
The top two tiers of bureaucracy in this country must go the same way as the US and Argentina. We have destroyed our autonomy, are destroying our energy and food security and swamping our cities with extra bodies we can’t house, all while elected and unelected taxpayer thieves alternate between talking to us like we’re children or berating us for living in a 21st Century country!
Google, Apple, Microsoft lead major tech companies quickly tying up dedicated nuclear power to give them uninterrupted supply for the AI ‘which will power the next century of technology’, while our lunatic Marxist activists decide we, the AI USER, must have black outs like it is 1824!
For the love of RA, Peter Dutton, MAKE IT STOP!
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BTW Nick Cater showed us the new Finnish Nuclear stn this year and the cost was about 9.6 billion Aussie $ and of course this reliable BASE-LOAD stn will last to 2100.
So toxic, unreliable W & S would cost us trillions of $ and be torn down in 15 to 20 years and thousands Klms of our environment destroyed. When will we think and wake up.
Yet we could build 10 of these Finnish reactors for just 96 billion $. See Nick’s honest costings at about 3 minutes 15 secs at the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbeKtcTfMbY
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